If you and your loved ones are constantly fighting about your relationship and you normally don't fight long term about things, you might want to take a good long hard look at what is causing the arguments.Okay! Let's do this!
But this time our "good, hard, long look" is going to be done in the context of what the Bible says so that Joe is not erroneously blamed for her fights with her mother! If you haven't kept up with this blog, reading some of the older posts could help you catch up on the characters. Briefly, there are KatieLyn, the runaway bride; Joe, the run from groom; and Gwen, the mother of the runaway bride.
KatieLyn says that she was constantly fighting about her relationship (with Joe) with her loved ones. Remember, this is the way she presented it in a public blog, so it is likely toned down. The way that I heard the story as she filtered it through Joe was that she and her mom were having some arguments, but that KatieLyn was standing strong. In hindsight, I think she lied to Joe about how bad the fighting was. In fact, in her next blog paragraph, she admitted to burying things and not talking about them with anyone. Her blog says the fighting was continual. The fights must have also been huge to have the power to break up the engagement.
We will start with James 4:
1What is the source of quarrels and conflicts among you? Is not the source your pleasures that wage war in your members? 2You lust and do not have; so you commit murder. You are envious and cannot obtain; so you fight and quarrel. You do not have because you do not ask. 3You ask and do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it on your pleasures. 4You unfaithful people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.James says that the source of fights and contentions among people are cravings and passions which war within them. KatieLyn's goal was to receive the answer to her life-long, God-given dream of becoming a wife and homemaker. But she also held her mother up as an idol in much the same way as is perfectly normal for a child, but is aberrant for an adult. There was a dependency there, apron strings that had never been loosened in a normal, growing relationship. Gwen, who finds her self-worth in her matriarchal role, liked it that way. And because she liked it, Gwen's relationship with her adult daughter grew into a codependency.
We can see that scripture is right on the mark about the desires and pleasures that battle within; KatieLyn wanted to become a wife, and Gwen wanted to keep a daughter. Furthermore, Gwen was jealous of her daughter, even as she hated herself for feeling that way. Gwen's choice for a husband had been made largely by the fact that she was pregnant when she got married. KatieLyn had "done it right" and waited on the Lord. There was a jealousy stemming from guilt that had never been dealt with, and now Gwen was all set up by Satan to continue making KatieLyn pay the price. This was the source of Gwen's confusion, she'd given entrance to the devil through her jealousy of KatieLyn. Gwen was envious and could not get what she wanted, so she fought and quarreled with her daughter, exactly like James 4:2 says, "You are envious and cannot obtain; so you fight."
The behavioral pattern continued further, right on the course identified by James. Even though I had brought up the topic of the knowing the Lord's will, once the reality of the engagement set in for Gwen, she never seemed to know. Either she never asked, or she asked but did not receive and answer because she asked with the wrong motives. I cannot say for sure which it was. Joe and KatieLyn were both praying for Gwen at that point, and from comments made later, it certainly appears that Gwen was given an answer but chose to be in denial.
Most definitely, James' next sentence fits the situation like a glove. Gwen was without faith. "You unfaithful people!" in verse 4 is literally "Adulteresses!" The King James Version translates the Greek moichalis as "Ye adulterers and adulteresses." The context here is not sexual adultery, but spiritual unfaithfulness. All of Gwen's "legitimate reasons" and "valid concerns" were fleshly and worldly. None had a trace of authentic faith. James goes on to ask, "Don’t you know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God?" Apparently she does not because she tried to argue that it was wise and appropriate.
James is pretty clear on what does constitute godly wisdom and understanding. In Chapter 3 we can read:
13Who among you is wise and understanding? Let him show by his good behavior his deeds in the gentleness of wisdom. 14But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, do not be arrogant and so lie against the truth. 15This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, natural, demonic. 16For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing. 17But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy. 18And the seed whose fruit is righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.Gwen's kind of wisdom is called "earthly, sensual, devilish." (verse 15) Every time that KatieLyn heard her mother speak against the marriage, she was hearing devilish wisdom. Wisdom that does not come from God is demonic. I didn't say that; James did. I am simply quoting him because I believe the Bible.
Think I am taking that out of context? Then compare:
Jude 1:19 ~ These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.
1 Corinthians 3:19 ~ For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight.
1 Corinthians 2:24 ~ The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.
I am not saying that Gwen doesn't "have" the Spirit in the sense of not being born again. I am saying that she has chosen to repress it and is not developing or using it; she prefers to rely on her five senses and her human reasoning. I can't judge Gwen's heart, but I can judge her doctrine as seen in the policies she announced after KatieLyn ran back home to her, and walking by faith "in the Spirit" seems to be a foreign concept for her.
James 3:16 ~ For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing.
Although Gwen was jealous of her daughter finding love, once the jealousy worked its work, KatieLyn had an explosion of selfish ambition. If she could not be a princess bride, then she'd be a devilish diva. She was going to block all communication, I am not sure whose idea that was, but it doesn't matter too much; in the end, it could not have happened with out her consent. I remember telling Joe, "KatieLyn isn't the same person that you knew anymore. She has had a taste of power, and it will change her." What I did not tell him, because it would have been too cruel at that point, was that her power-trip was a devilish one. I am pretty sure he sensed it anyway; at least, he did not play into it.
KatieLyn set herself up so that she could have her ears tickled. The only people she would talk to were the ones who would pamper her "heartbreak" and tell her how brave she was being. She determined that she'd rather hear fables than the truth, and so she shut herself away so that truth won't happen. She did not like quarreling with her mother and ...lo, and behold, KatieLyn found a way to work the codependency (that she'd previously claimed that she wanted to escape) into a a place where her mother was more than willing to pamper her. Back in the day when she (allegedly) wanted to escape the unhealthy codependency, the roles were reversed; KatieLyn was being a scrub woman for her mother and paying rent to share a bedroom with her high school age sister.
KatieLyn now claims that she should have made spending real time with our family a priority. But when she was in town, she stayed away and spent the bulk of her time with Joe and his friends—I thought she was enjoying the independence of not having to. How was I to know that she was going to interpret my not making demands on her as a "lifestyle difference" that would have made a long term healthy relationship impossible." Who knew? A mother-in-law rejected because she wasn't interfering enough! Gotta be one for Ripley's! Get back here and play Apples to Apples with me, girlie!
KatieLyn and her mother were constantly fighting because KatieLyn had an answer to prayer and her mom could not believe it. And then the devilish codependency kicked in, so now... Katie and her mom can live happily ever after.